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Old July 20th, 2015, 10:02 AM   #11
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Speaking of Shovel Alley, I recently came across Benjamin Leeson's anecdote about it. Apparently, as a green P.C. his more experienced colleagues sent him in there alone as a practical joke. He exited shortly afterwards minus his helmet and his dignity. The helmet was later recovered from a group of boys who were using it as a football.

Leeson says the alley got its name from the fierce coal men who lived there and who used their shovels as weapons.

The alley came out between 142 and 144 Cable Street - 142 was The Shovel pub. (I wonder if his mates told him the origin of the name. Possibly the same mates who filled him in on the true meaning of his senior colleagues nicknames.)
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Ah just down the road from old ma Forsdike-Lechmere's cat's meat business business.
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Old July 20th, 2015, 10:48 AM   #13
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Ah just down the road from old ma Forsdike-Lechmere's cat's meat business business.
That's the one - Charles Booth's 'worst place in the Subdivision'.

I think this is the other end of it (NE corner of Princes/Swedendorg Square) top right where the pram is in the 50s/60s, although Mayfields Buildings which lined it had been demolished by then.

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Old July 20th, 2015, 11:11 AM   #14
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No problem........I find it really quite interesting...

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Old July 20th, 2015, 11:12 AM   #15
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I find shovels extremely interesting.

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Old July 20th, 2015, 11:34 AM   #16
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Cable Street - a friendly neighbourhood.
Try the genial Polish barber at no 126 - don't accept any refreshments from him though.
Then go and get some food for your pet cat - cut straight off the Torso - at no 147.
Wash it down with a drop of Mother's Ruin in the local at no 142.
Then stagger off into the night down Shovel Alley.
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Old July 20th, 2015, 11:51 AM   #17
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At 25 Mayfields Buildings lived Dennis McCarthy who in 1903 stabbed his girlfriend Rose to death. He bought the knife from 'Julius's' barber shop - would that have been Chapman's old premises does anyone know.

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Old July 20th, 2015, 12:01 PM   #18
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Samuel Julius and Walter Rose had a hairdressers at 40 Cable Street in 1921
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Samuel Julius and Walter Rose had a hairdressers at 40 Cable Street in 1921
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Old July 20th, 2015, 12:03 PM   #20
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Don't ask me how Mr Linford got his portrait in the middle of my quote.
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