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Old January 3rd, 2018, 10:15 AM   #91
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Just to complete the picture, Henry's brother, Thomas Christened his son, Ellis, on 9/11/1887 in Manchester. Ellis died in Whitechapel on the Monday following the double event. He was in hospital over the weekend. William Tomkins (Henry's dad) was found in an alcoholic coma in Winthrop Street in April, 1888 by one of his sons (it's not clear which one). He did not recover.

It's not clear exactly when the family moved back to London, or whether they all relocated at the same time, but it seems to have been late '87/early '88.

Incidentally, Wynne Baxter presided over William's inquest, so that may explain Henry's behaviour at the Nichol's inquest.
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Just to complete the picture, Henry's brother, Thomas Christened his son, Ellis, on 9/11/1887 in Manchester. Ellis died in Whitechapel on the Monday following the double event. He was in hospital over the weekend. William Tomkins (Henry's dad) was found in an alcoholic coma in Winthrop Street in April, 1888 by one of his sons (it's not clear which one). He did not recover.

It's not clear exactly when the family moved back to London, or whether they all relocated at the same time, but it seems to have been late '87/early '88.

Incidentally, Wynne Baxter presided over William's inquest, so that may explain Henry's behaviour at the Nichol's inquest.
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yes i think i have most of that already from yourself apart from the death of the nephew.

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Old January 3rd, 2018, 01:38 PM   #93
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From the previous thread on this, it appears that the earliest date for the Norther route being called Bucks Row is1830. Orginially posted by Gary.
Jerry supplied the details of the map to me.compiled by surveys in 1824, 25 and 26.
Map is by C. & J. Greenwood.


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Names sure changed a lot. In 1873 Winthrop was called Little North Street (even though it was south of Bucks Row!).
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Hi Dusty,

Yes, the first part of Brady Street, running north from the Whitechapel Road, was originally called Ducking Pond Lane and what would eventually become the south side of Winthrop Street was Ducking Pond Row. Later, Ducking Pond Lane became North Street and Winthrop Street became Little North Street.

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Names sure changed a lot. In 1873 Winthrop was called Little North Street (even though it was south of Bucks Row!).

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Which Map is that from. I don't seem to have one for 73 on my list.

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Which Map is that from. I don't seem to have one for 73 on my list.

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Hi Steve,

I hope Dusty doesn't mind if I respond on his behalf - it's the 1873 Ordnance Survey map.

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I hope Dusty doesn't mind if I respond on his behalf - it's the 1873 Ordnance Survey map.

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Thanks Gary,
I already have over 30 maps so it gets a bit confusing. Just sorted them all into a file.
Debs raised has mentioned the Hackney carridge list mentioning Bucks Row in relation to Coverley fields.
One map from 1814 calls Charles street (north bakers row) Coverley st.


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