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Old October 28th, 2010, 08:05 AM   #1
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I have been sent this pic and wondered if anyone knew anything about this object i.e. is it genuine and where is it now?

The inscription inside the lid reads:
"This wood formed a portion of the wreck of the S.S. "Princess Alice" which sank in the Thames on Sept.r 3rd. 1878 & over 600 lives were lost."

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Old October 28th, 2010, 09:54 AM   #2
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Hi Chris

Of course I have no definitive information about whether this box is genuine, but I suppose it could be. One reason that it could be the really McCoy, I suppose, is that I don't see that the object would necessarily have any high value despite the tangential Ripper connection through Liz Stride's dubious claim to have lost her husband and children in the disaster. The box is featured on this "heritage steamers" website where it is described as a "trinket box". I don't know if that is where your correspondent found the photograph.

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Hi Chris

I've mentioned it a couple of times before, but on an Antiques Roadshow programme an old gentleman brought in a walking stick with a small plate on it stating that the stick was made from wood from the Princess Alice
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Thanks, Nemo. I don't remember you mentioning that before but see no reason, as with the trinket box, that the walking stick could not be the real thing. It's not as if either artifact is being represented as a link with Stride or that anyone was making it into a Ripper item.

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Of course Liz Stride claimed to be a "relict" of the Princess Alice.
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The most expensive JTR object is not for sale. It is a wooden relic and its name is Michael Caine.
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The most expensive JTR object is not for sale. It is a wooden relic and its name is Michael Caine.
Sir Michael Caine to you, Robert. Not bad for a Bermondsey lad, eh?
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Yep, the lad dun good.
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You can be fairly sure that it would be genuine - when the Alice sank, it was necessary to raise the remains of the vessel as where it lay was obstructing other shipping traffic through the Thames - so this was done within days of the sinking and the remains were taken to the river banks. So there was no shortage of wood which could and probably would have been taken and made relics out of - after all, she was big news in 1878, souvenirs that were made would have sold well!

As for where it would be now, possibly a maritime museum or something similar in London? It would no longer be in possession of her owning company (London Steamboat Company) - they went bust in 1884 and closed down altogether by 1888.

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I'm sure I've got photos in a book somewhere of part of the wreckage on the banks by Galleon's Reach, with loads of members of the public milling round it. I'd love to own something like that!

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