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Old June 5th, 2014, 02:23 PM   #131
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Wickerman - we obviously can't say for sure they were all done by the same person but in my opinion the weight of evidence suggests they probably were.
Infatuating over minor differences between each case to convince yourself that there were multiple killers always strikes me as an eccentric way to approach this series.
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Old June 5th, 2014, 03:37 PM   #132
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Hello Anna. Thanks.

Why look at a group of 1880's killings through a lens made in the 1990's?

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Old June 5th, 2014, 03:41 PM   #133
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Wickerman: The only reason I hang onto the canonical 5 idea is because it seems to be established. I usually don't look at things that way but feel solutions could come by studying those five.

As I respond in the various polls I believe Jack's career started before Polly and unless he was dead, incarcerated, gone or whatever, he didn't stop with MJK.
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Old June 5th, 2014, 07:36 PM   #134
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It wasn't a clumsey attack either.Whoever attacked Liz didn't make hard work of it which can rule out drunken fight/disgruntled customer.

I feel she was a Ripper victim alright.
Interesting.
So perhaps the 'staggering drunk' who accosted Liz in the gateway, was not drunk at all?
Perhaps he walked with an awkward gait?

Alternately, perhaps you agree with Swanson when he admits that after Schwartz left the scene there was time enough for Liz to accost, or be accosted by, another as yet unidentified male?

I'm game either way.
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Wickerman - we obviously can't say for sure they were all done by the same person but in my opinion the weight of evidence suggests they probably were.
Infatuating over minor differences between each case to convince yourself that there were multiple killers always strikes me as an eccentric way to approach this series.
True.
Though I prefer to stick with Nichols, Chapman & Eddowes for certain(?), and Kelly as a 90% certainty - all by the same hand.
As far as the rest go, only by varying degrees of probability.

With respect to Liz, I'm interested in both sides of the argument. On both sides (ie; Jack or not?), there are good points both for and against.
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Interesting.
So perhaps the 'staggering drunk' who accosted Liz in the gateway, was not drunk at all?
Perhaps he walked with an awkward gait?

Alternately, perhaps you agree with Swanson when he admits that after Schwartz left the scene there was time enough for Liz to accost, or be accosted by, another as yet unidentified male?

I'm game either way.
I think it is more than possible she was attacked by someone who would be of a relatively sober nature and without a noticeable disability.

Although violent drunk savagery isn't something unheard of, it is more brutal and crude in its conviction.

However, we cannot truly rule out the possibility the Ripper worked in a pair. (Not a theory I share but one I include just to exhaust possibilities)
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