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Old September 24th, 2013, 04:51 PM   #1
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Gordon, J.S. 1 November 1888


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Old May 25th, 2014, 08:09 AM   #2
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Philip Sugden in his book The Complete History of Jack the Ripper contended that Matt Packer was a highly imaginative and dishonest character, and that his witness statement was on the whole, unreliable.

However I believe that the police at the times knew of his dishonesty and wanted to protect him from public anger if they ever found out about his dishonesty.
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Although incorrectly spelt "It strikes me" is something of an east-end expression in this context, and I wonder if that's where, despite the Scottish sounding name, Gordon originated?

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Hello Sleuth. Agreed. Tom Wescott has stated the same. And the Met considered Packer altogether unreliable.

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Apparently even the story of Packer selling grapes to a couple on the night of Stride's murder is fiction, and even if it was true, there is every possibility that the couple could be entirely different people!
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Hi Howard et al.

While the letter writer may have meant Packer, the wording implies more than one person, street fruit sellers in general:

". . . you may depend on the Whitechapel Murderer attempting to kill the only persons who can identify him, namely the Fruitsellers. . ."

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Hello Sleuth. Thanks.

Yes, indeed.

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Hi Howard et al.

While the letter writer may have meant Packer, the wording implies more than one person, street fruit sellers in general:

". . . you may depend on the Whitechapel Murderer attempting to kill the only persons who can identify him, namely the Fruitsellers. . ."

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Hello Chris.
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I wonder if the plural is aimed at 'the Packers', that is Mr & Mrs Packer. Even though the original threat is supposed to have been leveled at Mr. Packer alone.

We can hardly guess which source this Mr Gordon up in Aberdeen had used, but the Echo of Oct. 6th in London had included Mrs Packer as a witness.
"...and Mrs. packer remarked it as strange that they should remain, for rain was falling at the time."
Perhaps a similar erroneous version had found its way up to Scotland?
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Hello Jon. All of which makes one wonder why Mrs. Packer did not get questioned a bit more by the coppers.

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And the Met considered Packer altogether unreliable.
I am not sure we should put too much store by the Met's view of Packer. They hardly covered themselves in glory throughout the whole business!
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