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Whatever Happened To..........? Re-examining various areas of the Case

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Old May 30th, 2015, 05:33 PM   #11
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That book was launched with ultra sensationalism. Therefore I always felt it would be a flash in the pan, and that it was planned that way. As we can see it takes a lot more than DNA to "identify" JtR. It was extremely risky IMO to claim to absolutely name Jack with what the authors and scientists had.
Not really. If they had a piece of material with the DNA of a victim and a primary suspect on it, they would have been imbeciles if they hadn't shouted it from the rooftops as loudly as they could. And that is exactly what they thought they hadand what they did.

What baffles me is why someone decided to dumb down the science. It wasn't as if the evidence was provided by some washed-up semi-scientist working from his kitchen at home. Dr L is a scientist highly respected internationally and working for a good university, so there was every reason to play up the science; to make it the core of the book instead of something akin to an afterthought.
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Old May 30th, 2015, 05:42 PM   #12
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Its now been 'remaindered' which says it all really.
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Old May 30th, 2015, 05:48 PM   #13
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Its now been 'remaindered' which says it all really.
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5.99 in 'The Works' in Romford I noticed today. I normally can't resist a bargain, but this time I somehow managed to.

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Old May 30th, 2015, 05:53 PM   #14
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The paperback is due out soon and it apparently contains the result of a lot more scientific work and proves Aaron Kosminski was Jack the Ripper.
Just wanted to repost this, as it means we can look forward to round two and just maybe, possibly, scientific claims that are harder to dispute when all you have to argue with is a book.

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Old May 30th, 2015, 11:49 PM   #15
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Paul: Science gets dumbed down so that the basic reading public doesn't get turned off mentally. My first writing jobs were as a technical writer for a science department. It isn't always about dumbing down, but explaining so that a targeted audience can easily understand. Sometimes it is about dumbing down.

With the shawl they have what they have, which is a piece of history. For me there are a lot of problems in absolutely naming ANY people though the rarer blood type could be indicative of Kate.

There are so many possibilities concerning the shawl. I was thinking today that a novelist could write a number of different stories about how the shawl fit into various events.

From the business end of publishing their best bet was to create a feeding frenzy before there was too much discussion. Good marketing. I respect the science and the scientist but don't accept all the conclusions.
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From what i gather the paper back will be just a re-print of the original with no new info , but possibly with the science that was flagged up taken out.

I wouldnt get your hopes up for anything earth shattering. To me its been a polished turd since it came out.

Im yet to be proved wrong , which is quite a new experience for me lol
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That's not what the pre-pub says, Ricky. It promises the results of a lot more scientific testing,
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Hello Gareth. I'm with you. The shawl is completely irrelevant.

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Old May 31st, 2015, 05:42 AM   #19
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Hello Rick. I daresay.

Perhaps, however, our distinguished "scientist" has learned how to read a database and do high school math.

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That's not what the pre-pub says, Ricky. It promises the results of a lot more scientific testing,
Is that pre-publicity available somewhere online?
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