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Old July 20th, 2015, 01:31 PM   #21
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It must have been a mirage!
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Old July 21st, 2015, 06:18 AM   #22
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Hello,
This is just to let you know I have 'e' mailed the Metropolitan Police Heritage Centre regarding PC William Thomas Murphy, warrant number 62907, in an attempt to gain further information which would possibly assist me in tracing his family history. Obviously, this could take some considerable time.
With the earlier serving PC William Thomas Murphy, we know a lot about this family situation but cannot confirm when he actually resigned from the Metropolitan Police. I noticed one of his children was born in the first quarter of 1888 and so I have asked ancestry if they could supply me with the father's occupation from that certificate. That information would help reduce this grey area.

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Old July 21st, 2015, 07:34 AM   #23
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The MPHC will be able to tell you when he left as well
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Old July 21st, 2015, 09:21 AM   #24
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Hello Edward,
Thanks you, I have never dealt with them before, so I did not know that.

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Old August 21st, 2015, 02:45 PM   #25
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I thought I better give the official ending to the story of the 2 x William Thomas Murphy's who served in 'H' or Whitechapel Division. Many thanks must go to the Heritage Centre of the Metropolitan Police who supplied the missing information to complete this story.
William Thomas Murphy [1852/Colchester, Essex.], after completing approximately six and a half years with the 24th Foot Regiment, joins the Metropolitan Police:-

[a] Joins 29/9/1873. PC. 'H' division. Warrant number 57226.
[b] Resigns 29/7/1878. PC. 'H' division.

[c] Then he rejoins the Metropolitan Police and 'H' division on the
29/7/1878 PC. 'H' division. Warrant number 62907.
[D] Resigns 13/4/1889. PC 'H' division with a gratuity of 91 and with a good conduct certificate level 2/meaning 'good.'

So the mystery is solved that there were never 2 x William Thomas Murphy's, only one and he went on to have a large family and quite a successful life.

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Old August 21st, 2015, 02:58 PM   #26
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Thanks for that, Alan. Amazing - resigns and rejoins on the same day.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 06:23 PM   #27
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Ops........... I did a typing error he resigns for the first time on 19/4/1878 and so approximately 3 months later re-joins in 29/7/1878.

[1] Joins 29/9/1873. - leaves 19/4/1878.
[2] Re-joins 29/7/1878 - leaves 13/4/1889.

There is also mention of a Police Order dated 4th June 1878, Army Reserve. ''The Constables belonging to the Army Reserve, who recently resigned, are to be borne on the strength of the establishment and shown on the ''morning states'' as ''in country with out pay'' and included in 3rd class :- reference warrant number 57226 to 62907.
That an exact quote from other information I received on PC William Thomas Murphy and I was not sure of its significance so I did not previously mention it but obviously it explains why he was taken back into the force.
sorry about the previous mistake

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Old August 21st, 2015, 06:37 PM   #28
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