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Old February 11th, 2016, 04:51 AM   #1
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Default Swanson's notes on Stride's murder

Hamrammr has started a thread on Casebook about a note made by Swanson on the murder of Stride, which is particularly difficult to decipher. It's an interesting puzzle, and I think Jon S's approach is the right one to follow. I wonder if anyone here has any more thoughts on it:
http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=9457
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Old February 11th, 2016, 05:52 AM   #2
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Chris:

Thanks for sharing.
FWIW, I think you're right about Jon's approach towards making sense out of the note.

Is that found within a Home File, Chris ?
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Thanks for sharing.
FWIW, I think you're right about Jon's approach towards making sense out of the note.

Is that found within a Home File, Chris ?
It's written in the margin of the Home Office copy of Swanson's report about the Stride murder and, following the first link in the thread, it's written beside the description of the man seen near Mitre Square by Lawende and Co at 1.35 (p. 138 of the Ultimate Sourcebook). So it's a comment on what Swanson says about that sighting of a suspect.

I see Hamrammr is going to try to post a higher resolution image and his thoughts on the transcription on the other thread.
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Old February 11th, 2016, 03:20 PM   #5
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I clipped it and enhanced it, The laptop I use for that purpose isn't working right so I didn't get as much as I think I could. Here is what I think is in the first sentence. Maybe it will help someone else figure out more.

"That has led to ______ been
at 1.35 by that ______ time
the _______ had _______
murder!"

I feel fairly sure of the "murder!".
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"Murder" isn't "made clear", by any chance?
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Sam: Reasonably everything is suspect. I see murder! but I won't insist on it.

Using the tools available on Photobucket I suggest the second line may say:

"If (take?) the 1.35 as correct the
___ed ______ ______ that have
____ _____ ______ between."

Someone who is good with computers and photo enhancing: If this thing is enlarged and various levels of contrast, brightness, etc. can be worked with and maybe some special effects used, I think this would be fairly clear. I also think the longer words (like perhaps constable?) are kind of scribbled in the first place. With some applications most of it looks almost clear to me but I can't do the final steps needed. It appears the scribbling over the text is a different density than the writing and I think this can be largely discarded with the right enhancements.
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I see 1.35 mentioned twice

This is said to have been
at 1.35: by that time
the
murdered.
If ----------- 1.35 is correct
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I see 1.35 mentioned twice

This is said to have been
at 1.35: by that time
the
murdered.
If ----------- 1.35 is correct
Yes, I agree with this, and I think the people on Casebook have worked out that the third line is "the woman had been [...]ly".

It seems that the Home Office official had failed to understand that these witnesses related to Eddowes's murder rather than Stride's, and had therefore thought there was a problem with the timing. I assume the annotation was crossed out when he realised his error.
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Yes, I agree with this, and I think the people on Casebook have worked out that the third line is "the woman had been [...]ly".
I wonder if the last word on that line could be "certainly", if one of the lines that looks like part of a double 't' (or 'f') is really part of the crossing out.
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