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Old March 25th, 2017, 12:20 PM   #1
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Default Betsy Dyson: Suspicious Bolton Death Feb 20 1888

I'm surprised no one has done this before but I've ordered the death certificate of Betsy Dyson.

And I've contacted the Bolton Library for local articles about the suspicious death.

Something to look forward to.
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Old March 25th, 2017, 01:50 PM   #2
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I'm surprised no one has done this before but I've ordered the death certificate of Betsy Dyson.

And I've contacted the Bolton Library for local articles about the suspicious death.

Something to look forward to.
It was thought to be a poisoning, but the pathologist couldn't identify the poison, so the coroner directed the jury to return an open verdict.
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I would be interested to know if there was an autopsy and why doctors believed the death was unnatural and by poisoning. She could have had one of the many unknown, undiagnosable, untreatable diseases of the day and simply succumbed. Rheumatism, cough and then vomiting? Could she have been allergic to whatever was in the cough medicine? But like you suggest, maybe something was scraped off the fly paper and put into the bottle of cough syrup.
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Okay I've picked up the Diary book to look at the Diary text. There is usually a line between the entries when there's a gap of several weeks and this gap doesn't have one but I don't think it matters. He could have said "summer is near" at the end of February.

Shirley Harrison says it was probably around March (probably because it was "cold and wet") and James had gone to visit his brother Thomas in Moss Side, Manchester, as he writes that he is doing well.

Wouldn't he have visited on a weekend? That makes a Sunday night murder more likely, following his visit? Farnworth would have been on a direct north railway line from Moss Side and only about 15 kilometers away.
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According to the Diary, I think the first murder can't be a classic Ripper murder because it says Jim changed his mind in July during his first visit to Michael in London because he didn't take the buckets of blood into consideration.

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How I succeeded in controlling myself I do not know. I have not allowed for the red stuff, gallons of it in my estimation. Some of it is bound to spill onto me. I cannot allow my clothes to be blood drenched, this I could not explain to anyone least of all Michael. Why did I not think of this before? I curse myself. The struggle to stop myself was overwhelming, and if I had not asked Michael to lock me in my bedroom for fear of sleepwalking, to which I had said I had been prone to do recently, was that not clever? I would have done my dirty deeds that very night.
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