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Old August 20th, 2013, 10:21 PM   #21
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Yep - Suez route - Bombay, Fremantle, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, thence to Auckland (NZ), Hobart and return to Blighty.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 05:14 PM   #22
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I remember coming across that Charles Macnaghten fellow when I was scanning the Trove articles as well. Seems he was a reasonably well known man of the law at one point. (Wonder if they were related? How ironic.)

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The Daily News (Perth, WA )- Thursday 30 January 1919 Edition: THIRD EDITION p 4 Article

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Hi Tel,

Great finds and very interesting stuff. If Perth/Freo was "on the way" for Macnaghten then it makes much more sense, and after a long trip by boat down here you could imagine that he probably wanted to spend a bit of time on shore. And where better? Perth and Freo are beautiful places.

On another website (unrelated to any research into Macnaghten) I came across a report of a steamer which sailed directly from England to Sydney in 1925, so it did happen at times - or at least, in the years following Macnaghten's visit.

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Yes Adam, tho from what I can gather he remained with the Mongolia all the way to NZ, so his stops in Fremantle, Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney would have been, at best, overnight pauses.

Agreed - I went to Perth (drove across) in 1986 - lovely place, and the best fish & chips I've ever had at Fremantle - apart from fighting off the seagulls!

Perhaps he broke the return journey for longer periods? Can't find any reference to his return (yet)
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Hi Tel

Macnaghten was dropped off at Plymouth June 1st. it says port of embarkation Sydney so maybe Mac didn't go to NZ.

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Thanks Robert - that is very interesting, he was still with the Mongolia, so it looks to me that the 'voyage for health reasons' was just that - a voyage with minimal stopping off anywhere.

To arrive in Fremantle in late March, sail to to Sydney via the Bight and be back in Blighty on June 1 is no mean feat, even under steam. And as the Mongolia did not return to Sydney from NZ, but rather went to Hobart and then 'homeward' he must have continued on to Auckland.
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G'day Tel,

Yes, it would seem that Macnaghten's stops were only very brief ones - onto shore for an inspection here, a high profile meeting there, a dinner somewhere else and then back on board and off to the next stop.

He had taken the cruise for health reasons, but it is interesting to note his refusal to be drawn on questions relating to JTR and yet it was only a short time later that he retired completely and wrote his memoirs.

The cynic in me wonders if this ploy was designed for a financial benefit.

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Tel....I meant MLM's wife.

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I thought you might have How - haven't managed to find a pic - yet!
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