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Old October 25th, 2013, 04:47 PM   #1
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Jenni....

It can't be stated enough....how well you took apart the latest hoax concocted by the nameless and loathsome toad ( now toads...) who foisted the Uncle Jack LIE upon the media....and Ripperology.

Well Done Jenni !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old October 25th, 2013, 05:25 PM   #2
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I want to chime in here. I think all of us guessed there was something fishy about 'The First Victim', but suspecting something and proving it are quite different matters. I was thoroughly impressed with two aspects of Jenni's work:

1) The depth and breadth of her research. Her collection of 'pieces' and her assembly of those pieces into a string of evidence that proved conclusive.

2) Her presentation. It must be noted how Jenni has grown as a writer over the years. This piece was so exquisitely written it might just as well have been composed by a Harvard grad.

I'm supposed to be working right now and just wanted to take a quick peep at Jenni's piece, but the narrative was so strong I read it straight through. Best thing she's ever written and a great job.

I think what's so surprising is that Tony Williams could think he was clever enough to get away with this after his first go around with Jenni. Did he think she wouldn't look into it? Really? And it appears he's now orchestrating a ruse on Amazon to discredit Jenni's work. How sad. Saddest of all is how a man would pull his own children into such deceit. I'm sure that hit home with Howard while reading this and anyone else who has daughters.

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Old October 25th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #3
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I think what's so surprising is that Tony Williams could think he was clever enough to get away with this after his first go around with Jenni. Did he think she wouldn't look into it? Really? And it appears he's now orchestrating a ruse on Amazon to discredit Jenni's work. How sad. Saddest of all is how a man would pull his own children into such deceit. I'm sure that hit home with Howard while reading this and anyone else who has daughters.
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Yes I did Tom !
Yet the daughter is 25 and should be waaaaay beyond the age of having Daddy Tony do her thinking for her.
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Excellent, Jenni, Simply excellent!
This is Ripperology at its finest... as only someone with a well rounded understanding of the subject can do.

I hope this gains some traction and helps put these charlatans on notice that REAL Ripperologists are putting everyone on notice who tries to play this game and get away with it.
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Old October 26th, 2013, 08:03 AM   #5
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I must have missed this as I was away. Can anyone tell me where it is?
PS Jenni you look totally cool - I would suggest you call yourself Jenni Bond but I believe that has been taken.
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It's in the latest (No. 134) issue of Ripperologist Bob
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Old October 26th, 2013, 08:38 AM   #7
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Your email and Issue 134 arrived at the same time. I've got a great idea. You remember Calendar Girls? Well who would buy a calendar with all our lady Ripperologists on it? Put me down for 10!
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Old October 26th, 2013, 09:09 AM   #8
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I've just finished reading it and I must admit I would not recommend any author or prospective author doing the same - because quite frankly if that's the standard we all have to reach - we ain't got a hope in hell! Might as well give up now chaps, it's certainly put me off writing anymore! Away me to a monastery!

What can one say about such a brilliant piece of writing? This is how it should be done, and it has certainly set the bar very, very high.

I’m now going to practice my chants.

‘We are not worthy, we are not worthy’

Congratulations Jenni.
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Excellent, Jenni, Simply excellent!
This is Ripperology at its finest... as only someone with a well rounded understanding of the subject can do.

I hope this gains some traction and helps put these charlatans on notice that REAL Ripperologists are putting everyone on notice who tries to play this game and get away with it.
Absolutely.

A fine, fine piece.

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I like how Paul's review of the book was so short. I'm certain this had nothing to do with his health; he simply didn't think it deserved any more words than absolutely necessary. But he brought up a GREAT point...why did John Blake accept this work? They must have AT LEAST suspected it was a ruse, and the evidence as represented by Blake is not substantiated by the book itself (or so I'm told...I was spared the cost of this book by vigilant forums posters). John Blake was once respected as a publisher of Ripper and true crime books, but stunts like this will quickly end that. From what I understand, Hands of a Woman sold quite well, and it sounds as though it's part of the ruse.

I'm glad to hear Jenni is writing a biography of Sir John which hopefully will outlive these books proclaiming this good man as the Ripper.

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