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Old November 3rd, 2016, 09:40 AM   #1
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Can anyone point me in the direction of the letter supposedly sent by a slaughterman that contained drawings of a coffin and a dagger?

I'm sure I've seen it on here somewhere.
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Old November 3rd, 2016, 09:51 AM   #2
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You can see it here, Gary :


https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...ktheripper.pdf
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I probably shouldn't interject this here, but the description sounds like a letter Patricia Cornwell said Sickert created. I DO think she may be right about Sickert creating some of the letters. WWD also said Sickert was fascinated by JtR.
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I probably shouldn't interject this here, but the description sounds like a letter Patricia Cornwell said Sickert created. I DO think she may be right about Sickert creating some of the letters. WWD also said Sickert was fascinated by JtR.
Of course you can interject, Anna.

I'm looking into how the 'slaughterman theory' waxed and waned between Nichols and the double event.
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Old November 3rd, 2016, 04:57 PM   #6
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Can anyone point me in the direction of the letter supposedly sent by a slaughterman that contained drawings of a coffin and a dagger?

I'm sure I've seen it on here somewhere.
Hi Gary,

I recall reading somewhere that Warren retained a number of letters (supposedly hoax letters) sent to him at the height of the murders. He regarded these letters as amusing, had them framed, and hung them on the wall of his home. One such letter depicted a coffin. The current whereabouts of these letters is unknown. It's possible that the Sept. 24, 1888 letter, which includes a "silhouette" of a coffin, was sent by the same person.

Tracking down the disposal of Warren's estate may prove a fruitful avenue of research; he was a religious diary keeper, who also made notes on all aspects of his careers. I'd be very surprised if Warren didn't hold definite opinions regarding the murders, and didn't record these opinions somewhere.

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Hi Gary,

I recall reading somewhere that Warren retained a number of letters (supposedly hoax letters) sent to him at the height of the murders. He regarded these letters as amusing, had them framed, and hung them on the wall of his home. One such letter depicted a coffin. The current whereabouts of these letters is unknown. It's possible that the Sept. 24, 1888 letter, which includes a "silhouette" of a coffin, was sent by the same person.

Tracking down the disposal of Warren's estate may prove a fruitful avenue of research; he was a religious diary keeper, who also made notes on all aspects of his careers. I'd be very surprised if Warren didn't hold definite opinions regarding the murders, and didn't record those opinions somewhere.

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Hi Sean,

You've been quiet recently, good to see you back on the case. This is the letter I was looking for:

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Just another spoof JTR letter, whether written by Sickert or not, but interesting to me as evidence of the currency of the 'slaughterman theory'.

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Hi Sean,

You've been quiet recently, good to see you back on the case. This is the letter I was looking for:

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Just another spoof JTR letter, whether written by Sickert or not, but interesting to me as evidence of the currency of the 'slaughterman theory'.

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Hi Gary,

Agreed! Very interesting.

I've been busy writing, mate.

I'm familiar with this letter although I've never been convinced of the killer having written letters, but you never know.

As for Sickert having written letters; well, it's possible. He certainly had an interest in the case, and was possessed of a dark sense of humour. I think he would been amused to have known that some people (today) suspect him of having committed, or of having been complicit in, the crimes.

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