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Old November 18th, 2012, 11:11 AM   #1
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Default Pall Mall Gazette Victim Map September 10, 1889

This time, Mackenzie, along with the still unidentified Eddowes, is on the map and similarly unidentified...

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Old November 18th, 2012, 12:03 PM   #2
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Hi Howard

The map is a bit odd that some of the victims are named and some are not. In fact for the Catherine Eddowes murder in Mitre Square on September 30, 1888, it says "Woman unidentified"! The Pinchin Street victim, whose remains were found September 10, 1889, was never identified, so no name there makes sense, but not the leaving off of the name of Alice Mackenzie in Castle Alley, July 17, 1889 (cited here as July 16, 1889). And what happened to Frances Coles?

The location of the murder of Annie Chapman on Hanbury Street has been placed in the wrong location. Although admittedly Hanbury Street was a long street, the murder location was not near Buck's Row. Rather, 29 Hanbury Street was northeast of the location of 13 Miller's Court where Mary Jane Kelly met her terrible end.

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Chris:

I mentioned the fact that Mackenzie and Eddowes were classified as "unidentified" in the first post.

Coles wasn't murdered until February 1891.
This map is from 1889.
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Chris:

I mentioned the fact that Mackenzie and Eddowes were classified as "unidentified" in the first post.

Coles wasn't murdered until February 1891.
This map is from 1889.
Right. Thanks for correcting me, Howard. But Eddowes was not still identified a year after her murder was she?

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Old November 18th, 2012, 12:21 PM   #5
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CG:

Eddowes had been identified right after the crimes occurred, within days at most in most sources....but for some reason the PMG cartographer omitted her and sister victim Mackenzie....
Most maps of the day had Eddowes on the list by this time, of course, but its unusual that the PMG, being a well read paper, didn't.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 12:55 PM   #6
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Hi Howard

Of course, we often forget that in this digital age we have the facts at our fingertips whereas, back then, they did not. For example, I always have to look up the correct spelling of "Mackenzie" and so similarly -- mea culpa! -- should have caught myself on the date of the Frances Coles murder.

You are correct that a respected, otherwise well informed publication such as the Pall Mall Gazette should have researched the facts before publishing such an ill-informed map.

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