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Old December 5th, 2015, 04:59 PM   #11
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Yes, that was the lodging house keeper.

I don't know if this Charlie Mitchell was the one who fought Corbett and Sullivan.

Trying to discover who was at a lodging house, and when, is fraught with difficulty. You have a transient population who don't appear on the electoral rolls, so the main tools are the census, possible BMD certificates, and newspaper reports.
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Old December 5th, 2015, 08:04 PM   #12
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Yes, that was the lodging house keeper.

I don't know if this Charlie Mitchell was the one who fought Corbett and Sullivan.

Trying to discover who was at a lodging house, and when, is fraught with difficulty. You have a transient population who don't appear on the electoral rolls, so the main tools are the census, possible BMD certificates, and newspaper reports.
Robert,

I have found a few local London papers that confirm it was the well-known pugilist named Charley Mitchell. It occurred in the court-yard of Harvey's Buildings. Salvage was knocked to the ground and hit his head on the pavement causing a wound to the back of his head and a concussion. His son-in-law, Thomas Grieves, who also resided at Harvey's Buildings, was witness to the event.

You are correct, it is a difficult task with the transient population. Guess I'll just keep digging.

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Here is the trial of Pugilist, Charley Mitchell, for the assault on lodging house keeper, George Salvage of Harvey's Buildings. He was a very violent man. I read somewhere, I believe on casebook, Debs found that he wore a coat trimmed with Astrakhan. I can't remember if it's in this article or not (I've read many lately) he is described wearing a coat trimmed in fur. This is a lengthy article. I found it interesting because it related to Harvey's Buildings. Also of note is even though he fought some heavyweights in his day, Charley was 5'9" and weighed between 150 and 160 pounds.

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Hi Jerry,
Yes, that's right, Charley Mitchell and another boxer gave an interview in the US for the newspapers there are the press produced a large article even describing their dress. Both wore tie pins and diamonds and Mitchell had an astrachan trimmed coat. It was a popular style of dress for pugilists of the era, they were very smart men but a little loud in their dress sense and always had the jewellery to go with it. I've also posted pics of Jem Mace in his astrachan trimmed coat and one where he sports a rather large thick gold watch chain and I think horse shoe tie pins were very popular among sportsmen connected to boxing and racing.
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Hello Jerry. Good work.

Keep it up.

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Nice one, Jerry !!
Poor old George Salvage.
Mr Salvage would regularly assist the inebriated William Brodie up to his room when he lodged there.
I`d like to have seen the bully Mitchell have a go at Brodie, who was a lot bigger than Mitchell and a complete nut.

What year did this all happen ?
Were there any illustrations of Harvey`s Buildings or Mr Salvage ?

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Nice one, Jerry !!
Poor old George Salvage.
Mr Salvage would regularly assist the inebriated William Brodie up to his room when he lodged there.
I`d like to have seen the bully Mitchell have a go at Brodie, who was a lot bigger than Mitchell and a complete nut.

What year did this all happen ?
Were there any illustrations of Harvey`s Buildings or Mr Salvage ?

p.s.
don`t know w.t.f. that lightbulb is there for.
Hi Jon,

This incident was in 1892. That was the only sketch in the article.

Not sure what the lightbulb is?? lol
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