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19. Just for Jolly “I will cut thy throat, one time or other, in fair terms; that is the humour of it.” - The Life of King Henry the Fifth, Act II, Scene I

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Old November 24th, 2009, 04:33 PM   #21
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You sure it was the UK Jon? As Thorn Cross was the first of its kind and was a Home Office / Probation Service pilot, it was only the NIMBY's that were opposed to it, because of the day release scheme which p*ssed off the local villagers. We had the Borstal System still ongoing in the early 80's but that was tagged a "short sharp shock" but they weren't particularly militarily run.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 04:41 PM   #22
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I'm sure it was 80's UK. One of my uni lecturers said she did research into the reoffending rate. I think they were meant to emulate National Service. I'll have to see if I can dig out the details from last year.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 04:47 PM   #23
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Jon - You read any books by Peter Morrall whilst doing your course?
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Old November 24th, 2009, 05:06 PM   #24
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Not as far as I'm aware.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 05:10 PM   #25
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He was my Sociology teacher at uni and has done several books on murder in society and madness...they are on amazon...
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Old November 24th, 2009, 06:02 PM   #26
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If you read the you tube comments on a Beatles, Stones, Kinks etc song, it's full of ageing rebels saying "they don't make music like this any more."
And then there's that old song "Kids" :

Why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way?
Oh what's the matter with kids today?

Nevertheless all that said I feel there has been an alarming drop in standards of morality and self-discipline, and even (despite all the GCSEs and A levels and degrees) in intelligence. People today must be the thickest since Australopithecus.
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