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Old February 12th, 2018, 09:00 PM   #1
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Default What happened to Amelia Marie Pourquoi Demay?

So, I ran some searched on Ancestry.com, scanned through some census records, etc. and couldn't seem to find any information on Amelia Marie Pourquoi Demay after her conviction in 1889 to 18 months hard labor. Anyone know where she ended up? Did she remain in England upon release? Immigrate to France? Raise a family?
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Old February 12th, 2018, 09:19 PM   #2
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Thanks for starting the thread, Justin.

I've moved it into the Le Grand section....
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Old February 13th, 2018, 04:31 AM   #3
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Hi Justin

As far as I know, nothing is known about Demay either before or after her conviction.
I’m not sure if anyone has looked for her in more inaccessible records. Perhaps some records have come online since then.

Personally, I’ve always considered her name to be an assumed one. I mean, Pourquoi? As far as I know, a very uncommon French surname, and, as you say, there seems to be no other record of her.

In searching for her, I think Demay is somewhat uncommon, while Demaye is the normal spelling. It’s very possible the court transcripts left out the ‘e’.

Was she even French? She spoke French, the transcript reveals, Grande was known as the French Colonel and frequently went to Paris. So she could have been.
She was by witnesses considered to be a prostitute, and it’s possible she’d been in England nine years - Allene Williams says she’s known Demay nine years, but it’s unclear whether this means in England, or if they knew each other before.

From the context I consider the former most likely, but theoretically they could have been colleagues back in Paris or some other place.

Sergeant James says he’s known Demay 7-8 years, that would place her arrival in London no later than 1882.
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Kattrup,

Thanks for looking into this. I'll do some more digging to see if she turns up at old addresses. Overall, she's an interesting character worth following.

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Old February 13th, 2018, 03:22 PM   #5
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There was a mini biography of Demay in one newspaper that gave the year of her arrival and said that she came over to England from France in the service of a gentleman, similar to Elizabeth Stride's story.

Demay's name was on the house at Portland Place, I found this in some directories but unfortunately I lost the detail of this information.
Her name is sometimes given as Emelia and her surname as Dumay.
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FWIW
I wondered if Pourquoi should Pourquer, this name occurs more often in French records and the two are similar sounding in English.
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Not sure if this is her or not. Age is off .

Amélie Marie Porquier

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22 March 1892
Saint Louis, Brest, Finistère, France

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That's an interesting one. Thanks Jerry.
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Not sure if this is her or not. Age is off .

Amélie Marie Porquier

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22 March 1892
Saint Louis, Brest, Finistère, France
Excellent suggestion, Debra, and nice work, Jerry.

It must be her, the combination of names is too uncommon?

Even though the age is a bit off.
During the trial in June 1889 she's recorded as 30 then in march 1892 she's 27 and 4 months....not inconceivable that she'd pass herself off as five years younger.
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